Assassians Creed 2 and Left 4 Dead 2

I keeled over when I head that both L4D2 and Assassins creed 2 were coming later in the Christmas rush month of November. If ODST does not debue at the Microsoft conference then these will be my favorite out of E-3 this year. I wish Ubisoft was not the largest 3RD party developer concerting how huge they are but I guess that's what makes them successful. I could do with out another meadoaker Rabidds game for the Wii cause God knows that's all we need another party game for the Wii.